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Good eye everyone. We're here to have fun. It's screenplay Sunday, we've got the normal random gronk and today we're joined by Dan illich. From irrational fear and riot act. Yes, thank you so much. Thank you so much. It's good to be here. Good to be with you. Good to be spending my Sunday reading a great bit of literature that will enter the canon of fantastic Australian works right up there with Priscilla Queen of the Desert Picnic at Hanging Rock and BMX bandits can't wait to raise.

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Dan, that's very kind. When was the last time you had a table ride?

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Last time I had a table raid was not that long ago, actually.

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We've been taking ride Act, which is which is the sitcom that way right for audible and have been trying to turn it into a pilot for television. So we've been doing a little bit of table raids of our existing work and punishing ourselves for how terrible it is. And trying to turn it into something a bit more interesting for for television, which is great. And so there is Mike with the riot act that was was one of the first podcasts I listened to that had sort of that radio, play vibe, what's the difference? From an energy perspective doing sort of a radio play versus a sit, sit down sort of table read.

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It's interesting, it's hard to had, we have another table raid with everybody reading all the characters, it's just table rate between the riders. But the difference in energy is, I think, I feel like there's probably a bit more bit more energy when you're doing something for radio, because something because you need to kind of Express every single emotion through your voice rather than use your face to do and so

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there's, I feel like there's a significant difference in that regard. Because on television, and screen, in general, the performances have to be a lot a lot smaller, because if you put a big performance on television, it just gets lost in the audience hates it. And so on stage, you know, you kind of have these gigantic movements and have gigantic gestures on on television that movements and gestures get a lot smaller. And then on film, because the screen is so big. The way to to act really well on film is to not do any acting at all. To do nothing, basically, and you can win awards doing that there's many characters many actors have have won awards for doing absolutely nothing.

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So yeah, yeah, so that's the secret. So it's um, it's a huge difference in in kind of performance style. So we really focused on jokes and energy and visuals and stuff like that for the for the pilot. Well, so Georgie boy, and I have been, we've sort of given ourselves the task of writing the script. But JB, can you give an update on what happened earlier today? Yeah. So just before we started recording, we gave ourselves about 45 minutes to write the next bit.

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It was actually meant to be Josh's week this week. But he said, Let's do it together. And to be fair, Josh did all the work. I was just sort of sitting there anyway, that

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but when we're getting pretty close to the end,

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it crashed. And we lost the fight final dry everything final draft depot job crash, and we we have the spinning wheel of death. However, good news is that one of our listeners YT had sent through an email with a script that he had written with all of the characters.

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So that there was no,

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but that doesn't sound promising. Dan, how do you feel about having? Oh,

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yeah, I'm all for come off a collaboration. It's really good. I will say this about final draft. It is a dog of a programme. It constantly crashes. I don't understand how it's gotten the race. No one should ever use a final draft only use Roger Jewett. Really, right. Did you want to be paid for the subscription? I'm sorry, I paid for the licence? Because it's because we're not talking about final draft. That is terrible that it's not cloud based. And you can't you can't see your changes immediately. Oh, Roger.

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is the is the Google Docs really running? And looks great as well, like the I'm just looking at the UI right now. It looks stunning.

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Because the rookie mistake, I know you guys are just starting out of the business.

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It was seriously I mean, we haven't we've written. I've written more for screenplay Sunday than I have for the rescue, like in any part of my life, and I've only written five pages.

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And sorry, you asked before we started recording. Can you guys give us an update? JB we had Hamish Blake last week, and he mentioned the idea of a trailer or something sort of like you know

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Previous previously on just a bit of context of what's going on, so yeah, I've done it. I've done a trailer for you, Dan. So it should be pretty. It should explain it pretty well I reckon. And if you have more confused afterwards then Sorry about that. Okay, so here we go. So this is a as previously on, would you like to try that like if JB edited up like a 32nd bit where it cuts dialogue and things like that? It will be tricky, giving JB a lot of work, but

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try. You got it home. Here we go. A 32nd recap studying now. Previously, on screenplay Sunday,

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played by Ron Shelton was keeping a secret from his wife Boyden D, played by Tony Lynch, about a jetski second to jti dial if you don't explain what's going on. I'm gonna lose my sheet. I haven't been completely honest with you. My tax return this year is well over 1700 dollar bears. The shopkeeper played by Josh salt Simon a winning lottery ticket. Yeah, boy.

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We soon found out who was a mistake. I confused the ticket Tao gave me with the one George gave me

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to 2010 when Dale took his girlfriend Wendy or the bird watching adventure, this is it. There was a surprise when they Smith. Can you marry me?

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Yes. Alright. So that's basically what a big tax return on a jetski 160 million dollars. And we went back in time to saw how he proposed to Wendy Arendelle also bought tickets went up to over you, George. That was 30 cents on the dollar.

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Sorry about that. Fantastic. And, and that is brilliant.

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Yeah, it couldn't be couldn't be more clear.

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Danny?

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Yeah. Okay, so that was the gag. So I think the problems.

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Yeah. Oh, I love these Victorian names, these Victorian names that really travel well outside of Victoria.

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It's very fun. How am I the only one that missed that? is

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pretty clear. Josh. He couldn't be more clear.

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And be more clear.

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All right. So what can I say? But the problem that we're having Dan is that were like, when we were writing one Ah, and I think when it's your turn to write, you want to have as many twists and turns in your five pages, even though at the end, this is going to be a feature film. So a bit all over the shop.

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So I apologise for last week, there's lots going on. And is bamc going to make this into a feature film, Josh. Well, I think that that was the plan, but there's this look,

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it's not great. So far. I'm having fun, which is the main thing like what we're trying to do is have fun here. But and also just like no offence to whitey, like, you know, we love our listeners. And ya know, but I haven't I haven't I haven't looked at yet, but I can like it is very hard for us to if you haven't watched the master class. Yeah. If you haven't watched the Aaron Sorkin Have you watched the Aaron Sorkin master class? Here's what I bought it about two years ago, and I haven't watched it yet. So somewhere, you don't have to watch. You have to be my ability to watch it.

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Boy, I did my part. I did my part in capitalism.

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It was more of a signifier of my hopes and dreams.

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How many of the Yeah, subscriptions I'm thinking. Now that that is exactly what I'm doing too. But um, okay, so, JB, we've got the script. Have you sent it around to everyone?

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No, I thought you were doing that.

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Okay, so you got to dance dance got this right. I'll send it to the producer. You also send it to the producers. Okay, while we wait, maybe I can give you my fax for the day. Oh, yeah. So this this is the idea that where GB will bring an industry fact, just to give it some sort of clout.

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GB is hard to hard to multitask. So Happy Birthday to Bo Brady. Who? curious to know if you know Bo Brady? Really? Yeah, we go yeah, when we were in the same drama class in high school.

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Age 39 Happy Birthday to him. He's

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known for home and away And

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anyway, any other dance mics, and I think I

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I think you'll find he was also known for how the West has walked in you seven.

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You might want to do a JB and do a bit more research is also known as shirtless DJ, home nightclub in Sydney, probably 1998. So

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that is well known for so get onto it. That was not on the wiki. So

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in 1939 there's a divorce of interest. Actor Jackie Coogan, divorced actress, Betty gravel after two years of marriage. This is on on this day.com forward slash film TV. There's a section that's called divorce of interest. And you can see who got divorced on that day. So is it interesting not? Not to? Not really is it? Probably the divorce of interest is the most interesting thing about that, like knowing that there's a website, we can look up for divorces of interest, that is a tool we can all take into our future. Thank you.

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I mean, it's like it's like one of those net worth sites, isn't it? Have you ever looked at yourself? Danna, you want to any net worth science? Yeah, I think I'm worth about $26 million. And

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maybe we can talk about funding this screen a little bit.

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Correct. Okay, sorry that you guys have you sent it. Can you send it to grace? Nice. Sent. Yeah. Perfect. All right. So

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what has tripped us up previously? It has been the what would you describe? Gosh, uh, yeah. Okay. There was some issues. There were some issues with like, putting the characters and the, you know, Iran together. I'm not going to bring it up again, Jess. It doesn't matter which episode it was. It's behind us. It was Episode Two.

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Jay, do you know who's playing what character?

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No, I haven't even looked at.

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Dan. You're playing dial. Yeah, and I got that Dale is like a British Cockney guys. Yes.

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Wendy rice. Yeah, that's Greicy Gries who else we got Jimmy. Hi. I'll be the craps dealer. Huh? Samantha is Jess

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and Gerald is sibs. Hmm, I can sing as the craps dealer doesn't have much. But he's got a bit down the bottom.

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I'll be Simon.

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Oh, is there Simon? Yeah, this Simon Yeah, we haven't done yet. Okay, you're Simon and you can read. You can read the big print. Josh. May. That's a lot of pressure. Okay, unless you're too nervous about it. No, I'll give it a go. I'm just writing down Simon sermon. But who am I George? Sorry, Jeff. You're Gerald Gerald Gracia.

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de la.

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Samantha is Jess and Wendy elementaries. And so, so Wendy is grace. Yeah, right. Wendy's grace. Okay. Kyle is Joshua and I am Simon.

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Okay. And so well done. watty including all the characters. Yes. Great. So far. And so

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what are you laughing at? Jess?

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You just ready to get off of this.

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When the deal is we don't read it beforehand. I know. And so it is. So hopefully hasn't stitches stitched us up here. But it's a utilise check this No. A new life for Dale written by Andrew white derived from screenplay Sunday. BIG MEDIA COMPANY all rights for this work. And any derivative derivative game so the word dare reveal that heaviside whatever it

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is that is that a word? derivations know ahead of it assigned on they've known on a quarterly

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nightmare. Okay.

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I didn't sign up I didn't sign up to giving all these rights

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I'm not even comfortable with it to be honest.

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But what if it What if

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you've already called it out that I'm just too terrible?

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What's happened? Word is unequivocally like it's a difficult word. unequivocal. Yeah, it's okay. But by the way, Dan, dial has previously been dying to be British British. Yeah, he's already been through that. Okay, yeah. He's Cockney. From London or something.

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Low clot low class British or high class British. What class now? He's been squatting she's been Irish. Maybe what?

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Am I doing the big print? Again? Okay, here we go. This is like sauce all over again. Okay.

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Interior, suburban home kitchen night. The camera.

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pans through the filthy but large and expensive looking kitchen, showing a thunderstorm raging through the window, continuing to pan into a interior long hallway at night, a pile of clothes are strewn in a line towards the bedroom door, including a crumpled hot dog costume. lightning flashes exterior suburban home front door, Dale is unlocking the front door. A clap of thunder comes over. As he opens the sturdy oak door. He drops his keys on the table inside the door next to the vase of pennies and

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walks down the same hallway we saw before opening the bedroom door. We see the shock on his face as he yells

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Wendy Why are you Samantha? Oh god CUT TO interior dark room. The camera is zoomed in on a man's hand holding a smoking cigarette. It follows it up to his face and he takes a puff and says

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I'm not surprised when he did it. Since the lottery win last year. Samantha and her have become so close friends how close I didn't realise it still.

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I didn't think there were that close. I guess this whole thing really started off to the steamboat.

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steamboat on a river day. An aerial shot shows a beautiful steamboat paddling along a wide river. patrons of the boat can be seen dancing and drinking along the decks. As 1930 swing music can be heard playing over the noise of the crowd. CUT TO interior steamboat on river day. Dale is saying in a dashing ruffled shirt and tail code dressed to the nines. Allah Mel Gibson in Maverick leaning over a craps table. Wendy hands stands at the side with an excited look on her face wearing an MLM. MLM

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MLM what is that word?

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style dress complete with a golden necklace. A crowd is gathered around

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Come on baby you've got this role day seven to me.

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Dale rolls the dice down the table.

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Snake guys house wins ha ha Oh well. That's another 10 foul but what's another 10 far between friends? Waiter another con yet for me and my best girl make it the top shelf stuff this time got

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Samantha waltzes into shot wearing a hot dog costume with a gold plated bun and silver jewellery in in the shape of various condiments.

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Wendy baby Dale come see this band. They're fantastic. And I was chatting to the singer before Gerald what a hunk the trio wander away from the table and over to a large stage in the corner of the room. This is where the swing music has been coming from Gerald her former Busker is crooning into the microphone crowning in chronic running kerning kerning into the microphone. As the band plays, the song finishes.

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Okay, ladies and ladies. We'll be taking a short break. I'll see cool cats and dirty dogs on the other side of the bar. Don't forget to tip your bartenders. Gerald walks off the stage and spot Samantha.

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Hi, Hi. How are your buns hanging?

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Hey, Gerald, it's nice to catch up with you again.

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on a roll

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Yeah, condiments. Everyone stares at dial for a few seconds. Jerry This is Dale and Wendy friends of mine

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Come on gang. Let's go back to the craps the group and wander over to the to a craps table and find a wife's out waiting with their cognac. cognac. cognac. Everyone Okay, Gerald looks reasonably drunk.

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All right, let's put these ones on red.

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Wow, that's a lot of money. Don't worry my display where that came from.

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I'll be right back. I just need to use the wooden dogs for

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Miss you already buy dynamite you know there's a black chips, not the brown ones right. Suddenly the craps dealer jumps up and grabs Wendy holding a revolver in her hand to her head. What's that?

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Well, hello again, Dale. It's great to see you again. Hello, Jimmy.

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What? Oh, no, you don't recognise me doubt. No sorry, man. Should I? What's going on here?

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What about

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he rips off his face moustache?

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What about now?

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Do pauses for a moment and squints that the man was clearly in pain as the fake moustache has left a red line where the glue was. No make sorry. Can't say I don't know. No, you Oh.

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Damn it, man. It's me. It's Simon.

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Simon. I'm not ringing any bells may Wendy Gino.

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Ah, no. doesn't ring a bell right.

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Now is this me or you Josh?

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Because I'm Simon now that we just go with it, but go with it. It's fine. I'll be fine. Yeah, pick it up now.

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Damn it. No, it's me. Simon from the news agency. Oh, sighs

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not very well actually down. Not not well at all. The things will be going well soon. Now I have you and Wendy right here right where I want. Pick it up. So

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now Have you heard Wendy right where I want you. And soon I'll be suddenly Simon falls to the floor stand. Leaving Samantha standing behind him. Giant hot dog on neck lace gripped in her hand. She has evidently just belted him from behind with it on her way back from the bathroom. Frankly, you just the worst. Samantha leans down and office Wendy her hand.

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Are you okay, babe?

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Oh, hi. Um, now I thought I was cooked.

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And from that moment, that were inseparable. It's been three months and you never seen them apart. However, I never expected this to interior suburban home. Bedroom night. We continue the short the short from st one pivoting around from Dale's face to a well lit room. Wendy and Samantha Aaron old t shirts and overalls and have clearly just finished painting a sign saying it's a girl. Wendy runs over and hugs Dale

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I couldn't believe it. They'd been working on that banner to surprise me. And I've never been so happy. Filthy habit this but I've promised Wendy I'll kick it before the little one comes along. Who needs some money when you have family without? I wish I'd been able to buy that jetski I wanted

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Well, that was

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good. standout performance, Stan. That

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was very good.

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I think why watch he did an amazing job. I think we've had Yeah, words I didn't even really good. That's a

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testament to a good script is Yeah, so what do you do Dan? What do you do? I mean, this might not happen to you because you're you're a smart dude. You have a great vocab if you get stuck on a word when you're in a high pressure situation like a table read or any public situation what should you do

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you know what just say what is that word? And then move on sure that's fine that's totally fine Oh make it up like

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unequivocally there looks pretty good I mean you could pronounce it any way you want you could be in a quiet vocally you know that's that's good. means the same thing.

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Yeah, just say look, so I don't know these Japanese word.

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English plays

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any any size sorry to say sorry English is my second language.

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paper will be very impressive like wow, English is a second language if you don't want to. You don't have to be can you do can get in trouble though. Because if you have a big long word like entrepreneur and you fuck it up and you say well, sorry, French was my first language.

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So you don't want to, you know, you don't want to get caught there.

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So, you know, this is Episode Four, where we get a bit meta feedback on the format. I feel like where we've gone very big when it comes to the narratives, it's getting very unwieldly. Very hard to control. What's your thoughts? If you were to leave? Rather than leaving a review on Apple podcast? Can you just give us the review of the show?

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We can transcribe, I can write it down.

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I think I think I think here is much safer for your SEO.

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I would say I would say maybe we have experienced something of a narrative within these few minutes. But what people want to know is what's coming down the line. And I think, I mean, I think it could be something where within this group, you all can brainstorm a signpost or a flag that that might be coming down the line for next week, Sunday screenplay, or have something for the audience to look forward to, to tide them over. Or even have a have a narrative session where you can break down the narrative for how many weeks you're gonna do this, I don't know, 20 weeks or something like that, whatever that might be. And say we've had a narrative, we've had a narrative session. And here are the 20 chapters we want to write and then you could farm out people like Andrew to write one or two of them within the narrative structure. So say, you know, here's our four characters in kind of have those blocks laid out and then kind of have a bit of a writing workshop with your wonderful listeners. I love that idea. I mean, I've always dreamt of being in a writers room. If we wanted to create our own writers room. What do we need?

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You need collaboration. That's it. You know? I've got index cards. Is that close enough? Oh, yes. Indeed. The index cards from overseas Yeah. Yeah.

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The index cards you got any What are you rocking?

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Right now beautiful.

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Sadly these align these aren't well you could you can do both as we've got sort of wind and sort of only colour one colour. Very standard from from office works, but that's

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okay, board. You're gonna have you

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like from from Amazon. Okay, well now I think that's it. How's everyone feeling? Have you had really good fun? JB had a great time. Yeah, I would have liked more lines but really happy with that. Well, you took my line. And you

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sir.

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Yeah, no, I love the st like, this the setting in the casino.

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where it was, had really good job. I really like this had a lot of good jokes in it. I've enjoyed the, the reveal of the moustache. Well, what about now? And everybody got

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that's really good, Chuck. You know, like, I think it's surprising for me, probably not surprising to anyone else. But the I didn't know I was called craps. I thought I've been calling it crabs for many years.

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So that's another fun little crabs is a separate part of the casino.

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Generally upstairs, that's where you get that way. My craps? Well, we the script that JB and I had written that never made it today was obsession, a bowling alley. And not to bore you on what what happened. But it was interesting, JB, don't you think there were similarities? The hot dog seemed to be coming back every time because on f1. Jess was dressed as a hot dog.

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And so for whatever reason that's just made its way through. Our script was very heavily hot dog base. Lots of references.

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We didn't call them we didn't call them little boys as well, because that is sort of the I remember as a kid it's like, that's what they will call it Frank's Yeah, yeah, like little Frank cocktail Frankfurt's type of thing.

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So it just understory did so he thought that they all thought that he was getting cheated on at the start, right? That's Yeah. Is that what? We were turning lesbian?

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Yeah. Yeah. So I saw I still thought they were and I thought that Dale's just had a baby. Yeah, I thought he was Yeah, I thought that's what was happening. So you think that they're just really close friends and then Samantha went over to help. Wendy surprised I Oh, okay. Is that yeah, whatever it was, yeah. It was it. gender reveal. Yeah, baby. Yeah, yeah, I think

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best friends help. Okay, sure. Yeah.

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I mean, Dan, you're the only person here that's not in Melbourne right now. Can you tell us something exciting? Like, what are you? What are you doing? Ah, it is, uh

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I can't I can't express the joy of going through toll roads guys

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gone through a toll road in a while but your little baby goes beep. It's very exciting. That's, that's what happens five kilometres away from my house. I thought I'd just share that with you.

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There's nothing like spending 20 bucks in towels to go see your parents. That is

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that is the absolute thrill you that awaits you outside of lockdown. Okay. Oh, that's exciting. And before we go, this is slightly controversial, but I'm going to bring it up. And then maybe we can have some closure to it. Did you have any involvement in the don't start a podcast

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skit that was on ABC on the show that you worked on? Yeah. So that was a sketch that came from our team. And I was the boss of the TV show at the time. And we just made it. Yeah. Because I did have a blow. I did have a slight blow up on the podcast about Yeah.

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I was a bit upset. Do you think we're tight? Like, when things like this happen? What's the we taking ourselves too? Seriously? Do you think what's the internal conversation that you're having with something like that? I don't know. Like, do. You know, we had a lot of people on there that have their own podcast making fun of people with podcasts. And I think there was, I think that was part of it. Of course, it was a joke. So to to use to use the Donald Trump defence, it was sarcasm.

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Unlike telling you to inject bleach from the, from the White House Party.

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This was actually sarcasm used within the context of a comedy show. So if you didn't enjoy the sarcasm with inside a comedy show, you might not enjoy sarcasm outside comedy shows,

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plays into like so the the one thing with this type of thing is it's like, I didn't see it within the context of the show. So you see, you know, about and things like that, do you think that that's when you can say, you know, that's a really good point, when you see a video like that tweeted from the ABC account, and it's like, oh, this is an important announcement for the IBC.

32:28
When it's when when it's inside a comedy show.

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Where where someone is, is it? Will it inside a comedy show where when, when it's all about the pandemic, it kind of makes sense inside the comedy show. Yeah. So you know it when sketches do kind of lose their context, then people can take it a different way. And that's fine, like, you know, but if you acknowledge that, it's, it's a comedy sketch, then you might have more fun enjoying it? I mean, I have I make my living doing a podcast now.

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It's no lie.

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I commissioned the script. That's fine. So how's irrational fear going your podcast? Oh, irrational fears going great. We just um, since we moved to Russia, we just done 101,000 listens, which is huge for us. I think we're cracking about 2027 100 a week, which is awesome, which is I'm really thrilled about. And, Josh, you've been a fantastic mentor in terms of

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understanding numbers and data and stuff for the show. So it's been really wonderful. And yeah, we just put out a great episode today with Mike cannon Brooks and Asha Gunzburg talking about climate crisis and energy and climate grief. really fascinating chat.

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And Mike cannon Brooks has a wish I had the confidence of a man who has $12 billion in the bank.

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Because that's what Mike cannon Brooks has. And when he talks about the climate crisis, he's so positive, positive and optimistic and really undercuts the authority of government in this space because they don't have the ability to make long term changes for for the climate crisis. So really great, really great conversation that came out today on our podcast, and I'm really thrilled to share with you last week we had, we had Dave Anthony from the dollup Francesca fiorentini, from AGI plus. And we also had the mooch from the White House. Anthony Scaramucci joined us to talk about the debates the US debate debate. Unfortunately, we recorded a day before Donald Trump called COVID so it's less funny now.

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But it was still a really cool get and really fantastic chatting with them FC Scaramucci and it was cool to have Dave and Francesco on as well. So yeah, no pods going great. Thanks for asking. Jonah. calm. Yeah, and the the like the politics and where everything's at right now. Where do you think it's going to land in the states I give if you were to tell

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I bet you look at these things closely. I saw that there's a, the polls are saying that Trump's going to lose by a lot. But the polls have been wrong. What's your take? It's so difficult, like so interesting to see the polls, polls. I don't trust them in America. But one person who does tweet fascinating things is a guy called Kevin Rose. He's the technology editor at the New York Times, and every month, he tweets, the CloudFlare list of the Top 10 articles that have been shared on Facebook. And those articles are predominantly daily signal. Breitbart, Fox News, and these are all right wing publications and Facebook, basically, this right wing channel of conversation and conspiracy theories. And if if the world's biggest platform for information is to be believed, then Donald Trump will just get back in. So that is, that's the scary reality. And I don't know, I don't, I don't know if I can trust all the polls and 530, I had a great graphic came out yesterday. So the bottom is got this landslide on these hands. But it's very hard to tell at this point. And we're only three weeks out, and it's very scary. It's for the first time in my life, I'm quite happy not to be in America.

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Like, I feel like, I've tried to be an American for so many years. And then now I'm not an American is like the first time we're like, yeah, like I would not be in America.

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And finally, I just feel like you've got such interesting insights in this stuff with everything that's happening with the federal budget in Australia, like, what's your 32nd take on that? Because there seems like there is like a bunch of positive things to come out of it. But like, I guess, like you scratch the surface and look a little bit deeper, what sort of like the thing that people aren't talking about? Do you think, look, the only thing I'm really interested in the budget is talking about climate action, and there was not there was nothing about climate action. And kitaen Joshi did this great tweet. During the budget, he said, I did a Ctrl F on Josh frydenberg speech for the word climate. And it appeared once right before sentence where they were going to unlock five new gas basins. So when you're talking about this government, and the government isn't interested in climate action, they're interested in exploiting resources, which is fine. But also, those resources come with emissions. And some of those emissions are incredibly bad and gas emissions are the worst kind of emissions because they are 86 times are hotter than climate than carbon emissions. So we have a serious problem in this in this government where they are taking money away from renewables, because supposedly they've done their job. And they can stand on their own two feet. And they're investing significant amount in things like gas and, and coal and oil. And that's, and that's understandable when we're the largest exporter of that. But at the same time, if we had to make any kind of emissions reduction in the next 50 years, that is not, that is not what we should be doing, we should be curbing our emissions, we should be keeping that stuff in the ground. And we should be moving rapidly to low emissions technology. And there's nothing in the budget for that. And so if we were to change federal, you know, governments, I just feel like there's so much that needs to be undone. How do you go about doing something like that? Like, if they're putting together these sort of strategies? How do you actually create change? Well, I feel like for us, in Australia, right now, government is one part of the equation. And part of that is looking at independence, to lead on climate. So currently, we've got a huge crush crossbench, who all believe in climate action, and they believe a lot of other things as well. But climate action is the thing that cross benches really focused on and the Morison government on a couple of sites. And they have a couple of things, majority in the lower house. So when we go to the polls next year, really look at the candidates in your area who do support climate action and get behind one or two that do and labour making noise about climate action, but they and they have in the past, you know, put in ETS and things like that, which is great. But they are currently beholden to the right wing of their party who are all for fossil fuel extraction and exploitation. So we've got this, we've got this problem where labour we have this problem with the two major parties are completely beholden to the fossil fuel industry. And if if any of these two major parties decide to go against the fossil fuel industry, they push their lobby into action, and they will basically force the leader of that party out, which is what they've done.

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Time and time again since Bob Hawke. So it's a it's a pretty scary position to be in the safest bet for us for climate action is to vote independents in in the lower house who can force the government to convince the government in a place of climate action. So that's that, that's that picture there. The other things that folks can do is move this super to a superannuation fund that is invested solely in

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Renewable Energy are more or non fossil fuel products.

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And I'm in the presence of kind of doing some research about that now and doing that you can also do something simple, you know, lead every day yourself, you can offset the carbon emissions with your car. If you go to the irrational fear website, you can check out the NGO neutral link there. And did see the sticker that you put on the back of your car? Yeah, yeah, that's it. So that the team behind go neutral take will take your 90 bucks and buy 3.5 tonnes of carbon offsets for your car. So you can offset your emissions in your car for the year. And that's kind of what its scale. They're just starting at now. But at scale, what would be great as you could take a box at the RTA or or service New South Wales or Victoria roads?

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company, what do you what have you guys call

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Victoria roads, Victoria.

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And regret if you could just take a box and you know, pay another 90 bucks and have your car completely offset for the year. I mean, that would be a great thing to do. So you can just you take your own personal leadership in that regard. But the big thing that needs to change is, is big systemic change around energy. And we really need to push for renewables. Yeah, I think so much of it just education too. Because there's so I feel like I get into the, the the fun sexy stuff, which is looking at the trolling of Donald Trump, and things like that, but you don't look at your actual backyard and see what's going on. So irrational fear, I feel like is that good version of being entertained? And also learning about what's actually happening? Yeah, and the show is really good. And I think it has more jokes than what I was putting in before. So

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I appreciate appreciate just getting the getting the information. Awesome. Thanks, Dan. It's a screenplay Sunday, next week, a new script, which will be done by May I think I have to do at

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least have a crack and maybe I'll give myself a line as well. And I'll make sure all the words can be can be said. A great guy. Great, right. Have a good Sunday. We'll see tomorrow, guys. Actually, we won't say tomorrow. We'll see you next week.

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Thanks, everyone.