“60 Minutes” with Julian Haig/
- 13 November 2020
Julian Haig is known for TV shows such as Riverdale and Retrograde. He joins us to read through Josh’s script titled “60 Minutes” and we also get to chat with his mum! Oh, and Tommy Jackett is also back!
On this episode, we discuss:
- Julian Haig IMDB Trivia
- Julian’s table read experience
- Guess The Premise
- A read through of “60 Minutes” by Josh Janssen
- Feedback on the script
- Jules’ advice for season 2
- Julian’s mum
Julian on Instagram: @julianhaig
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This podcast is produced by BIG MEDIA COMPANY
[00:00:08] Josh Janssen: [00:00:08] everyone. Welcome to frankly, play Sunday. Of course. We're here with that. Georgie boy, my cohost JB. How are you?
[00:00:15] George Martin: [00:00:15] Good Josh feeling very excited for this one.
[00:00:18] Josh Janssen: [00:00:18] What we have Julian hike with us, please. Welcome Jolene Jones. Hi guys.
[00:00:25] Julian Haig: [00:00:25] I just got super nervous. Do I have no
[00:00:27] Josh Janssen: [00:00:27] idea what? Don't worry. You can also hear the laugh of, uh, Tom.
[00:00:32] Oops. I've just had,
[00:00:36] have I gone full screen
[00:00:40] Tommy Jackett: [00:00:40] somehow you've managed to make it all about you when I'm here,
[00:00:45] Josh Janssen: [00:00:45] Tommy. That is the voice of Tommy jacket. Uh, welcome back. Welcome
[00:00:50] Tommy Jackett: [00:00:50] back guys. Believe and achieve. If you're fired from somewhere, you may get reinstated and get the job back. And
[00:00:58] Josh Janssen: [00:00:58] then where's Jess. Oh [00:01:00] yeah. So Jess has other things on, but I thought it would be nice, uh, with Joel's.
[00:01:05] Uh, coming on. I thought it would be nice to have a TJ, uh, on as well. Uh, so, uh, GB, uh, you normally bring an interesting industry fact every single week to give us, get us into sort of the film and television sort of mindset. What have you got for us today? Well,
[00:01:24] George Martin: [00:01:24] you know what, I'm actually a bit done with the facts, to be honest.
[00:01:28] Tommy Jackett: [00:01:28] Okay. That's fast.
[00:01:32] George Martin: [00:01:32] I've done fax each week and they haven't been very good. So,
[00:01:37] Josh Janssen: [00:01:37] you know, I don't really
[00:01:39] George Martin: [00:01:39] know more facts, but what I did do throwing in the tougher facts, I just thought instead of the facts, I would look up Julian, Hey, gone IMD Bay and, um, and look at the trivia. You know, there's a, there's a trivia section.
[00:01:53] I'm DB. Um, Julian, can you tell us about the lawn bowls?
[00:01:58] Julian Haig: [00:01:58] Yeah, my uni mates are gonna love this. [00:02:00] Um, cause they actually edited that and put that in there
[00:02:04] Josh Janssen: [00:02:04] really?
[00:02:04] Julian Haig: [00:02:04] Um, yep, yep. Yep. My buddy G unit put that in there, so I'm pretty sure the
[00:02:11] Josh Janssen: [00:02:11] G I'm pretty
[00:02:12] Julian Haig: [00:02:12] sure he put in there for trivia, um, won a gold medal with the ACU grass.
[00:02:18] There's in lawn bowls. ACU. Yeah. Yep. Went to ECU anyway.
[00:02:26] George Martin: [00:02:26] Yep. Is that, so is that true or you didn't do that?
[00:02:29] Julian Haig: [00:02:29] No. Yeah, we won two gold medals actually. Yeah.
[00:02:32] Josh Janssen: [00:02:32] So like, I think that's a valid fact. That's a good fact. It is.
[00:02:37] Julian Haig: [00:02:37] No, it's great. It is good stuff. It's just funny. But J unit edited my IMD IMDBs pages.
[00:02:44] Josh Janssen: [00:02:44] And are your friends for
[00:02:46] Mr. 97: [00:02:46] yeah, what's the best of J unit can, can, can GB, can we rebrand GB?
[00:02:50] Josh Janssen: [00:02:50] T J unit G I do like how did that was actually my, the nickname of genius.
[00:02:56] George Martin: [00:02:56] I was Koji just because
[00:02:58] Julian Haig: [00:02:58] he, his name's Glen, [00:03:00] Glen, and he's just huge, huge guy. He was like, he was a bouncer and he's, he's just incredibly strong.
[00:03:10] Josh Janssen: [00:03:10] Yeah. I have a friend who
[00:03:13] Tommy Jackett: [00:03:13] can squat 400 kilos. You need to be able to lift some heavy shit before.
[00:03:20] Julian Haig: [00:03:20] before you put unit into any part of it.
[00:03:22] Josh Janssen: [00:03:22] Yeah.
[00:03:23] Tommy Jackett: [00:03:23] I never see units,
[00:03:25] Josh Janssen: [00:03:25] uh, jewels. When was the last time you were at a table? Right? Tell us about it.
[00:03:30] Julian Haig: [00:03:30] Um, I did an episode of the ABC comedy retrograde and we actually, we did a couple of table reads because it was shot like this. Um, everyone was in their own location, so we did quite a bit of.
[00:03:44] Um, yeah, reading through scripts and whatnot. And I was only in one episode. So they were doing tons of table reads and rehearsals like this. Um, yeah.
[00:03:52] Josh Janssen: [00:03:52] In zoo fun.
[00:03:55] Julian Haig: [00:03:55] Yeah. All the table reads are on zoom.
[00:03:56] Josh Janssen: [00:03:56] Yeah. Bring your own catering or [00:04:00] anything, or what sort of like, what's your set up? Do you have pens paper?
[00:04:03] What sort of stationary did you have? I can't
[00:04:05] Julian Haig: [00:04:05] remember on the day, probably just depending on a highlighter. Um, but then when we shot the show, They, um, they actually had me on location at one of the producer's houses as if it was my house.
[00:04:17] Josh Janssen: [00:04:17] Right? Yeah.
[00:04:21] George Martin: [00:04:21] Yeah. Sorry. I was going to say Maria from last week.
[00:04:24] Didn't she help make, Oh, is she an actress in retrograde as
[00:04:26] Josh Janssen: [00:04:26] well? Maria
[00:04:28] Julian Haig: [00:04:28] was one of the ladies in it. Yeah. And I, I played her sort of love interest.
[00:04:34] Josh Janssen: [00:04:34] Oh, here we go. Oh, this is right. That is a really good connection. Um, and so like, what's the vibe you're getting so far when you sort of see this, does this feel.
[00:04:43] Tommy Jackett: [00:04:43] Like as soon
[00:04:44] Josh Janssen: [00:04:44] as they see production similar,
[00:04:48] Julian Haig: [00:04:48] uh, yeah, this is very similar. Um,
[00:04:51] Josh Janssen: [00:04:51] no, honestly,
[00:04:51] Julian Haig: [00:04:51] a lot of that sort of stuff. It is like you guys are, you guys are super professional. I'm not sure if you're aware of how
[00:04:58] Josh Janssen: [00:04:58] you are.
[00:04:59] Julian Haig: [00:04:59] Um, and [00:05:00] most, you know, most creative projects are even at the top end. They're like, uh, they're kind of like a duck treading water on the surface.
[00:05:07] They might look kind of calm, but underneath they are just like going crazy. Yeah. So that's most things
[00:05:12] Josh Janssen: [00:05:12] or different. I think with this one,
[00:05:14] Julian Haig: [00:05:14] it's just my sister's just picking up some of her washing
[00:05:17] Josh Janssen: [00:05:17] her beach town.
[00:05:20] Julian Haig: [00:05:20] She has no
[00:05:21] Josh Janssen: [00:05:21] idea what I'm doing. Right. That's George. Beautiful,
[00:05:27] Tommy Jackett: [00:05:27] good to have another actor in the presence of other actors, you know,
[00:05:32] Josh Janssen: [00:05:32] Uh, so, uh, what we, what we tend to do.
[00:05:35] So, uh, if you're not across it, uh, one of us writes a script each week.
[00:05:41] Julian Haig: [00:05:41] I'm semi across it. I'm semi across it because I've listened to the podcast a couple of times. And you guys have talked about screenplays and I'm just like, what the hell are they talking about? Every
[00:05:51] Josh Janssen: [00:05:51] time they talk, I'm sorta to EIT episodes of screenplay Sunday and probably still be wondering, what is it
[00:06:02] [00:06:00] Yeah, but JB and I had been taking turns in writing a script. The only really consistent thing that has stayed is
[00:06:11] Mr. 97: [00:06:11] other people writing.
[00:06:13] Josh Janssen: [00:06:13] There's been a lot of other people involved. In writing the script. I think this is my second or third time. Yeah. First it's been,
[00:06:22] Mr. 97: [00:06:22] I think this is your second time right here.
[00:06:24] George Martin: [00:06:24] I think it's your third. It's your third.
[00:06:26] Josh Janssen: [00:06:26] Okay. I guess my third. So third time writing. That's
[00:06:29] Julian Haig: [00:06:29] that's pretty impressive that you you've pumped at. Three scripts.
[00:06:33] Josh Janssen: [00:06:33] Thank you. Thank you. I mean, it's only, you know, this, this script is only a four or five pages if you're including the title page. Uh,
[00:06:45] Julian Haig: [00:06:45] so, Oh, okay.
[00:06:47] Josh Janssen: [00:06:47] I saw 60, 60 minutes.
[00:06:49] So I was like, no. And so yes, I've sent the script to everyone. The title is 60 [00:07:00] minutes. There are two characters that have been consistent throughout this whole, uh, production and that ease, windy and dial. And once again, they are in the script. But when you think about 60 minutes, what if you were to have a guest of the premise of a segment it's called guests, the premise, what would your guests be?
[00:07:19] Conviction, judge? What would the, what would, what would you guess be if it was a segment, which it is. Hopefully, hopefully is this my guess? Yeah. Yeah. What do you think? 60 minutes? What do you think? There's a segment on 60 minutes. Okay. That's very good. You're right.
[00:07:39] It might be happening. Yeah. It might be, it might be that, but, um, so we will go straight into it. We won't fuck, you know, uh, fluffer around. Uh, T J D
[00:07:48] Tommy Jackett: [00:07:48] requires, even though I was brought in as a fluffer today, but
[00:07:52] Josh Janssen: [00:07:52] TJ, any questions? Any sort of cause, cause this does TJ. Yeah.
[00:07:57] Tommy Jackett: [00:07:57] Yep. Yeah. I haven't seen you guys since that [00:08:00] episode.
[00:08:01] Josh Janssen: [00:08:01] I
[00:08:01] George Martin: [00:08:01] haven't spoken bass
[00:08:03] Tommy Jackett: [00:08:03] who's who are the characters I'm excited to know.
[00:08:05] Josh Janssen: [00:08:05] Yeah. And so today at Juul, Uh, you'll be playing the character, Tim grace. You'll be Wendy mr. 97. You'll be Dale. George. You will be Jeff. And Jake and Josh that's me. He'll be playing a character named Josh. Uh, and, uh, I'm happy to do the big print.
[00:08:28] Tommy Jackett: [00:08:28] Who's Tommy,
[00:08:30] Josh Janssen: [00:08:30] Tommy. Tommy is my client. Yeah, I got that. Sorry. Sorry. Well,
[00:08:34] Tommy Jackett: [00:08:34] I was just say, I'd only come back on if I came back as a magpie
[00:08:38] Josh Janssen: [00:08:38] and so, you know,
[00:08:39] George Martin: [00:08:39] I can not just say isn't it, isn't it crazy that, uh, Mason's been Dale the
[00:08:44] Josh Janssen: [00:08:44] whole time.
[00:08:47] Mr. 97: [00:08:47] Aside for him. Hey miss.
[00:08:49] George Martin: [00:08:49] Hey, Ms. Ryan and Mason, like how's that?
[00:08:52] Mr. 97: [00:08:52] Yeah. High caliber caliber.
[00:08:54] Josh Janssen: [00:08:54] Did you want to be, did you want to be dial?
[00:08:58] George Martin: [00:08:58] That's just, just interesting.
[00:09:00] [00:09:00] Josh Janssen: [00:09:00] I have recent, I think part of it, I think part of it is because grace has been playing Wendy so much. I've sort of wanted to keep, I didn't want to have some sort of sex scene. With Dale and Wendy and all of a sudden it's,
[00:09:16] Mr. 97: [00:09:16] it's the G unit in the sexy. Yeah,
[00:09:21] Josh Janssen: [00:09:21] exactly. We don't need that.
[00:09:23] Julian Haig: [00:09:23] You'll see.
[00:09:28] Josh Janssen: [00:09:28] Okay. Uh, let's do it everyone. Uh, thank you for coming to today's event, Josh, by the way, I'm big print. I said, okay, great. Um, yeah. Uh, so everyone welcome to the, uh, the table read today. Uh, everyone's got the script if I'm good to go. Yep. Okay. Perfect. All right. Uh, Jeff 60 minutes. What was that? Jimmy?
[00:09:50] George Martin: [00:09:50] Sorry, Jeff.
[00:09:52] Josh Janssen: [00:09:52] and Jake, Jake
[00:09:57] Julian Haig: [00:09:57] also side note. I have a little bit of a [00:10:00] sniffle, so,
[00:10:01] Josh Janssen: [00:10:01] okay. No, that's okay. I can write.
[00:10:04] Julian Haig: [00:10:04] That's not like a character choice.
[00:10:06] Josh Janssen: [00:10:06] That's
[00:10:09] uh, 60 minutes written, right? Bye. Josh Janssen, eight Ferguson straight Abbotsford Victoria, three zero six seven, Joshua big media company.com. Interior 60 minutes studio evening, studio lights slowly fade up. The 60 minutes, intro music is playing and the presenter Tim Johnson holds his paper script firmly.
[00:10:31] In his hand, the TV producer gestures off camera, three fingers to the auto cue begins to move where watching through the television lens, like the hundreds of thousands of viewers at home. Tonight on 60 minutes,
[00:10:47] Julian Haig: [00:10:47] we take you inside the lives of the Australian reality show, power, couple Wendy and Dale Duggins for over seven years.
[00:10:53] We've seen them on as the protagonists of the hit show, doing it with the Duggins. [00:11:00] But what is it like when the camera's on, around? I got an exclusive access coming up
[00:11:05] Josh Janssen: [00:11:05] 60 minutes, graphic transition,
[00:11:07] Julian Haig: [00:11:07] but first the magpie that can talk. Jeff has that story now.
[00:11:12] Josh Janssen: [00:11:12] Exterior park day, Jeff, a reporter is wearing a suit sitting on a park bench with a magpie.
[00:11:19] George Martin: [00:11:19] When did you realize you could talk?
[00:11:22] Tommy Jackett: [00:11:22] Right? I still can't believe it to be honest. It happened about a year ago. There was a guy walking up and three were my up to the tree where my miso was looking after the kids in the nest. Normally I would Swope. I don't know what came over me, but as this bloke approached, I expanded my wings in yelled fuck off.
[00:11:44] I don't know who was more surprised me or the bloke.
[00:11:49] George Martin: [00:11:49] And did he
[00:11:51] Josh Janssen: [00:11:51] fuck off?
[00:11:52] Tommy Jackett: [00:11:52] He sure did.
[00:11:55] George Martin: [00:11:55] What an amazing story.
[00:11:56] Josh Janssen: [00:11:56] 60 minutes transition graphic interior, 60 minutes [00:12:00] studio evening.
[00:12:02] Julian Haig: [00:12:02] He wouldn't be doing that again. What are remarkable story now into with Dale and Wendy Duggins
[00:12:09] Josh Janssen: [00:12:09] area? Tell him where to Wendy's lounge room day down, Wendy, across from Tim in an interview style, set up cameras, lighting and crew.
[00:12:23] When, when we,
[00:12:27] Mr. 97: [00:12:27] when Wendy told me there was interest in a reality show about us, I couldn't believe it.
[00:12:33] Josh Janssen: [00:12:33] He never really understood what the appeal was. People watching us, watching us live our lives. Well,
[00:12:43] Mr. 97: [00:12:43] I never really watch reality shows. I have enough problems on my own.
[00:12:50] Josh Janssen: [00:12:50] It's funny. You bring that up.
[00:12:54] Julian Haig: [00:12:54] Funny. You bring that up. Dale. A lot of viewers are probably thinking right now,
[00:12:58] Josh Janssen: [00:12:58] don't they ever [00:13:00] fight? Of course, we fight the dishes. We're always fighting about the dishes
[00:13:07] George Martin: [00:13:07] in that way.
[00:13:12] Josh Janssen: [00:13:12] This is all Tim. This is all Tim. So Tim, in what way? In what? Sorry. I said it wrong anyway. Well, we have certain dishes that obviously can't go in the dishwasher and down always gets them confused.
[00:13:28] Mr. 97: [00:13:28] I still don't think it's clear to be honest, we have some mugs that can go in the dishwasher and some that can't.
[00:13:33] Do you think that makes any sense, Tim?
[00:13:37] Josh Janssen: [00:13:37] Do you have, do some, have printed
[00:13:39] Julian Haig: [00:13:39] graphics
[00:13:40] Josh Janssen: [00:13:40] on them? Tail looks at Wendy for the answer? Uh, yeah, I think the Looney tunes Maggie's printed.
[00:13:47] Mr. 97: [00:13:47] There's your answer.
[00:13:50] Julian Haig: [00:13:50] Dale, you've been described by other family members as, and I quote difficult and dumb.
[00:13:58] Mr. 97: [00:13:58] Well, mate, I mean, [00:14:00] you've spoken to me, Tim.
[00:14:01] You've watched the show. You've been in our house. What do you think
[00:14:06] Julian Haig: [00:14:06] Dale I'm interviewing you? The viewers don't want to hear from me.
[00:14:11] Josh Janssen: [00:14:11] Let's just say the dial isn't perfect. He's not smart all the time and he's not always easy.
[00:14:18] Julian Haig: [00:14:18] So a bit dumb,
[00:14:20] Josh Janssen: [00:14:20] Wendy,
[00:14:31] Julian Haig: [00:14:31] Earlier in the season, Dale, uh, you bought a jet ski.
[00:14:36] Josh Janssen: [00:14:36] Why did you do that?
[00:14:41] Really need to talk to the police and see you don't
[00:14:47] Mr. 97: [00:14:47] because I got a big tax return.
[00:14:50] Josh Janssen: [00:14:50] Is
[00:14:50] Julian Haig: [00:14:50] it true that the tax return didn't actually cover the cost of the jet ski?
[00:14:55] Mr. 97: [00:14:55] Yes, but Tim, let me just say
[00:14:57] Josh Janssen: [00:14:57] crash. A sound comes from a window [00:15:00] in the kitchen. Next door, Jake, the camera operator jumps up from his camera. Everyone
[00:15:05] George Martin: [00:15:05] stay where you are. If you can duck under a seat, we would be dealing with the security.
[00:15:10] We could be dealing
[00:15:11] Josh Janssen: [00:15:11] with the security Dale and Wendy duck behind their chairs off. Tim tries to untangling himself from the wireless lapel microphone, interior kitchen day. Jake walks into the kitchen area slowly examining the room. There's nothing unusual. He walks towards the window, which is a jar.
[00:15:30] Tommy Jackett: [00:15:30] My wing, ah, my fucking
[00:15:32] Josh Janssen: [00:15:32] wing.
[00:15:36] George Martin: [00:15:36] my goodness. It's the talking MedPar from the first segment,
[00:15:39] Josh Janssen: [00:15:39] Josh,
[00:15:47] Josh, the director comes in from the other room.
[00:15:59] There's [00:16:00] someone named made it code triple zero. The camera zooms out from Josh's face revealing Wendy Dallin Timur also in, uh, also now in the kitchen. Oh, Josh, Josh,
[00:16:15] Mr. 97: [00:16:15] Josh.
[00:16:17] Josh Janssen: [00:16:17] Josh does a silly face whilst trucking his shoulders fade to black. Wow.
[00:16:29] That was one of our best
[00:16:32] Julian Haig: [00:16:32] 50 minutes.
[00:16:33] Josh Janssen: [00:16:33] Yeah.
[00:16:34] Tommy Jackett: [00:16:34] Well done team.
[00:16:35] Josh Janssen: [00:16:35] Um, really good Josh feedback on the script and like everyone was fumbling a bit. Was that due to how I had written it? Yeah.
[00:16:43] Mr. 97: [00:16:43] I mean, it comes to spelling it. Yeah. A bit clunky, a bit clumsy, like a couple of spelling errors kitchen in the last couple of sentences is kitsch Ken.
[00:16:53] Josh Janssen: [00:16:53] Um, Oh, that's really strong,
[00:16:58] Mr. 97: [00:16:58] but yeah, no, I think you did a great [00:17:00] job setting the scene, Josh, um, Andrew in it,
[00:17:05] Josh Janssen: [00:17:05] I mean, as
[00:17:06] Julian Haig: [00:17:06] out of all the four page scripts I've ever read, this is one of the best ones,
[00:17:11] Josh Janssen: [00:17:11] basketball price st. Joe's. What was your favorite bit? What sort of stood out to you? Ooh.
[00:17:18] Julian Haig: [00:17:18] I definitely liked interviewing the couple.
[00:17:21] That was just fun.
[00:17:22] Josh Janssen: [00:17:22] Yeah. Um, it's not much else really. There is no. What about the bag type performance?
[00:17:29] Julian Haig: [00:17:29] I don't know. I don't know why I was losing it so much when I was calling him dumb or
[00:17:33] Josh Janssen: [00:17:33] asking. That's so
[00:17:37] Julian Haig: [00:17:37] funny to me.
[00:17:39] George Martin: [00:17:39] Yeah, the magpie performance was good. I think, um, you start at the first sentence was good.
[00:17:44] And then you lost your accent pretty quickly. And then you started sounding like tummy.
[00:17:49] Josh Janssen: [00:17:49] Yeah. Yeah. I think it was, there was a little fumble there that I think caught you off guard, but the dancing
[00:17:55] Tommy Jackett: [00:17:55] on the
[00:17:55] Josh Janssen: [00:17:55] page to be honest, I don't know.
[00:17:59] Julian Haig: [00:17:59] Yeah. [00:18:00] The magpie accent was actually a really strong at the start. Um, but I I've never actually heard of magpie talks.
[00:18:06] So I guess we're not sure it's
[00:18:08] Josh Janssen: [00:18:08] true.
[00:18:08] Tommy Jackett: [00:18:08] If anything, if anything, my magpie needs like one liners, cause then you can really sort of give it and then it's just stops.
[00:18:17] Josh Janssen: [00:18:17] It's almost too much dialogue I gave you TJ. Well, look,
[00:18:21] Tommy Jackett: [00:18:21] you know, I want more screen. Time's always good.
[00:18:25] Josh Janssen: [00:18:25] Think just for the mega.
[00:18:26] Julian Haig: [00:18:26] I think if you're going to go magpie, you got to go full magpie and that's a big chunk.
[00:18:31] So you just have to commit.
[00:18:32] Josh Janssen: [00:18:32] Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So could have been. So if I was to do the performance, how I had it in my head,
[00:18:44] There was a guy walking up where my Mister was looking after the kitchen like that.
[00:18:54] Tommy Jackett: [00:18:54] That was good.
[00:18:55] Josh Janssen: [00:18:55] Good, good. And do the whole bit,
[00:19:00] [00:18:59] Julian Haig: [00:18:59] you even added extra squawking
[00:19:01] Josh Janssen: [00:19:01] in there. Yeah, a lot more school
[00:19:04] Julian Haig: [00:19:04] kids
[00:19:06] Josh Janssen: [00:19:06] realize how many sentences they're on when you do that. Um, but, uh, no, I think it was the, the other hard thing is the simile Tanium. I don't know if I even wrote that correctly. The whole, everyone are Josh, but also with all of the delays and new being up in the middle of a Hill and all that sort of thing, it's very hard for us to simultaneously say something and for it all to be in sync,
[00:19:30] George Martin: [00:19:30] I missed that bit.
[00:19:31] When was that bit.
[00:19:33] Josh Janssen: [00:19:33] Oh,
[00:19:35] George Martin: [00:19:35] yeah,
[00:19:38] Mr. 97: [00:19:38] no, no, no. I was just too busy focusing on the misspelling of kitchen that I actually didn't rock.
[00:19:46] Tommy Jackett: [00:19:46] I lost my train of thought at the end somehow as well. Did you, is that what happened to you says,
[00:19:50] Mr. 97: [00:19:50] yeah, I think, I think, I think I was just a bit rattled cause I didn't understand what was happening.
[00:19:55] Josh Janssen: [00:19:55] Did you?
[00:19:55] I saw laughter
[00:19:58] Tommy Jackett: [00:19:58] laughter. It threw me off.
[00:19:59] Josh Janssen: [00:19:59] I, [00:20:00] I lost it. It, me having the same outline about calling triple zero. I lost it.
[00:20:05] George Martin: [00:20:05] I lost it at you saying Josh, the director.
[00:20:09] Josh Janssen: [00:20:09] Oh, I thought you guys were losing it because it says Josh,
[00:20:12] Julian Haig: [00:20:12] the director come in. It doesn't say comes.
[00:20:14] Josh Janssen: [00:20:14] Yeah, I was. I was laughing about
[00:20:16] Mr. 97: [00:20:16] that
[00:20:19] Josh Janssen: [00:20:19] guys.
[00:20:19] Not to tell you how to laugh or what to laugh at.
[00:20:24] Well, we famously the tax return that, um, Dale, Dale got was how much was it? Uh, 1500,
[00:20:33] George Martin: [00:20:33] 1700, hundred or
[00:20:35] Josh Janssen: [00:20:35] $1,700. I forgot to write a dollar dollars.
[00:20:40] George Martin: [00:20:40] Read it like that. This is interesting actually from a story point of view has dial and Wendy being in a reality show this whole time.
[00:20:48] Josh Janssen: [00:20:48] Yes. That's what I was sort of alluding to was that every single script we've had, where I was actually a part of the reality show.
[00:21:00] [00:21:00] Yeah. Would you say that grace is this inspiration from me watching? My reality? Yeah, it was, yeah. I like to pull inspo from everything. So I was putting stuff in the dishwasher just before this and thinking about how annoying it is that you can put some things in. Can't put other things in. So it's sort of a bit of a social commentary of life in a lot of ways.
[00:21:22] Julian Haig: [00:21:22] Yeah. I mean, reality shows are very inspiring, so can see, can see. Yeah.
[00:21:29] Josh Janssen: [00:21:29] There's a lot there. There's a lot to, to take from it. Uh, any, any other thoughts? Have you had fun, Joel? Oh,
[00:21:37] Julian Haig: [00:21:37] that was a ton of fun. I want to do it again.
[00:21:40] Josh Janssen: [00:21:40] Great, like next week at the top.
[00:21:45] Julian Haig: [00:21:45] Do you only read it through once?
[00:21:46] Josh Janssen: [00:21:46] Yeah, no, we only read it.
[00:21:49] It wouldn't be, I mean, do you think you were asking, you know, am I going to get to see the script? Do you think that there would be sort of validity in season two for us to give the [00:22:00] script beforehand? So everyone feels a little bit more comfortable or what do you think?
[00:22:04] Julian Haig: [00:22:04] I mean it'll yeah. Yeah. It'll make.
[00:22:09] If people can read it through once at least then they just know sort of, what's going to be happening a bit, then they can change their intentions a little bit. So they just sort of know, but it is also really fun to just kind of go for it out of nowhere. Just read it and see what happens.
[00:22:28] Tommy Jackett: [00:22:28] The problem with sending it over is we lose the game.
[00:22:30] I guess the premise
[00:22:38] Josh Janssen: [00:22:38] I just finished it as well. So
[00:22:44] George Martin: [00:22:44] if you send it a bit early, it means you have to actually write it early. Which is exactly not in the spirit of the,
[00:22:49] Josh Janssen: [00:22:49] of the show and the other disaster Jules, which you went across. You'll notice that it's called 60 minutes, final dot PDF. That's because the original script I send to the guys, I was updating the title [00:23:00] page at the time and managed to just save out the title page and sent that to everyone.
[00:23:05] And so,
[00:23:06] George Martin: [00:23:06] um,
[00:23:07] Josh Janssen: [00:23:07] Josh have,
[00:23:08] George Martin: [00:23:08] have we got any updates on a sponsorship yet?
[00:23:12] Josh Janssen: [00:23:12] No.
[00:23:15] Mr. 97: [00:23:15] So was this written on, um, final draft
[00:23:17] Josh Janssen: [00:23:17] or I bought final draft, so it's still fine. So it's still got a couple, yeah.
[00:23:24] Mr. 97: [00:23:24] Going to make back some cash.
[00:23:25] Josh Janssen: [00:23:25] Yeah. About 206.
[00:23:26] George Martin: [00:23:26] That's your last time? That'll be your last time riding for the season. So
[00:23:31] Josh Janssen: [00:23:31] yeah.
[00:23:31] Are you writing next week, GB? I
[00:23:34] George Martin: [00:23:34] guess so. Yeah. Figure it out now. Okay.
[00:23:36] Josh Janssen: [00:23:36] Yeah. JP, I thought the only
[00:23:39] Julian Haig: [00:23:39] good thing with like maybe reading it through whole time as it is nice and short, is that like, you could give some directions, Josh.
[00:23:48] Josh Janssen: [00:23:48] Okay. Yeah. That's interesting. So maybe it's for every single character.
[00:23:53] There's one sentence of, um, of direction that you can give. I like that idea. So you could [00:24:00] say, for instance, I could say. Uh, George you'll be playing Jeff and I, uh, he is way more formal than he needs to be. Great.
[00:24:13] Julian Haig: [00:24:13] Stuff like that might be good. Yeah. And then, yeah. And then something like with the capital.
[00:24:18] They could be disliked. They just need to know that coming into it. They are already pissed off at each other because they've had a little argument or something
[00:24:26] Josh Janssen: [00:24:26] like that.
[00:24:26] George Martin: [00:24:26] Yeah, sure. That would help a lot.
[00:24:29] Tommy Jackett: [00:24:29] So that just been having sex before the camera crew got there and they're both
[00:24:32] George Martin: [00:24:32] flustered.
[00:24:33] Josh Janssen: [00:24:33] Yes.
[00:24:38] Good idea. To TJ. Uh, well, thanks. Uh, thanks Jules for, um, for coming on and, and, uh, going with it. Um, any, anything that you would I'll shut
[00:24:51] Julian Haig: [00:24:51] up trying to TJ the other day about it. And I said like, I, you guys popped into my head and I was like, Oh, I need to get back on the show. And then he gave me a call [00:25:00] like the next day to come on here.
[00:25:02] So it's
[00:25:02] Josh Janssen: [00:25:02] pretty funny. I mean anything that you would any other feedback, anything else? Because season two, we can make those changes. You're the professional here. Anything else you could look
[00:25:12] Julian Haig: [00:25:12] up? Yeah, I reckon you can make the script a little longer.
[00:25:15] Josh Janssen: [00:25:15] Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:25:18] Julian Haig: [00:25:18] Um, Yeah. What else?
[00:25:21] Josh Janssen: [00:25:21] Oh yeah. I mean, if you want some sort of
[00:25:23] Julian Haig: [00:25:23] classic, uh, drama writing type things, just, I mean, obviously the first one on his story, you want to have a beginning, middle end and, uh, you know, and make that kind of journey happen.
[00:25:36] Um, and then the other one is it's really good to have conflict. So obviously. Um, the conflict between the couple is really great. Um, and then the conflict between the magpie and Jeff is also pretty good. Um, but then yeah, one, uh, in, in like most TV film, there's different, there's like [00:26:00] sort of inner conflict, outer conflict, and then world conflict.
[00:26:03] So you won't like to have something that's an Oh, like star Wars is the easy, easiest example. The inner conflict is that, you know, um, Luke's trying to become a jet. I like his father. And then the outer conflict is he's on this journey with these other guys trying to save the princess. And then the world comes conflict is the death star is going to destroy the universe.
[00:26:24] So that's like a big example.
[00:26:26] Josh Janssen: [00:26:26] Can you do that? Can you do all of those versions of conflicts in, in four pages?
[00:26:33] Julian Haig: [00:26:33] I mean, you, you can find ways. Here's my mum, by the way,
[00:26:37] Josh Janssen: [00:26:37] my mom
[00:26:41] Julian Haig: [00:26:41] also has no idea what's going on.
[00:26:43] Tommy Jackett: [00:26:43] Your mom's. Is your mom a screenwriter? Is she a screenwriter?
[00:26:47] Julian Haig: [00:26:47] Are you a screenwriter? What do you do?
[00:26:50] Grace Peris: [00:26:50] I'm a painter
[00:26:51] Josh Janssen: [00:26:51] to paint. It looks, yeah, it looks she's even in her. Oh, I am painting outfit. Amazing. What is she [00:27:00] currently painting? What are you currently painting mum?
[00:27:06] Julian Haig: [00:27:06] Actually, if I give you
[00:27:07] Josh Janssen: [00:27:07] this, it's going to pop that. No, you do it. I'm not putting that here, then you'll be able to hear them.
[00:27:13] Julian Haig: [00:27:13] And my microphone's here.
[00:27:15] Josh Janssen: [00:27:15] So what are you turning pathway? What are you currently painting?
[00:27:19] Grace Peris: [00:27:19] Well, I'm painting sort of a mix of landscape and still life with a semi-abstract. Um, pretty abstract.
[00:27:27] Julian Haig: [00:27:27] Yeah.
[00:27:27] Grace Peris: [00:27:27] Yeah. Uh, almost patchworks of color. And shapes and
[00:27:34] Josh Janssen: [00:27:34] beautiful how long it's going to take you. Like when you set out to do something, do you say this is going to take me six weeks? Or how does it work?
[00:27:43] Grace Peris: [00:27:43] No, um, it can take me, actually, these paintings are taking me quite a while, like a few weeks each, because I'm, I'm just, um,
[00:27:55] Julian Haig: [00:27:55] you've been pumping them out.
[00:27:56] Grace Peris: [00:27:56] Yeah. But I'm not
[00:27:56] Josh Janssen: [00:27:56] rushing it. Like I'm not
[00:28:00] [00:27:59] Grace Peris: [00:27:59] rushing it. Um, just, uh, cause they're about one half meters by a meter. So yeah, there's a lot I need to do in each one. And consider once I put a Mark in one spot and what happens over there, it affects everything around it, you know? So it's like a jigsaw puzzle.
[00:28:23] Julian Haig: [00:28:23] If you were to have a guess, what do you think we're doing?
[00:28:27] Grace Peris: [00:28:27] Um, yeah, well, I assume, um,
[00:28:31] Julian Haig: [00:28:31] yeah, yeah, but what are we
[00:28:34] Grace Peris: [00:28:34] working on a script? You're working out an idea for a story.
[00:28:39] Julian Haig: [00:28:39] Yeah, that's pretty good.
[00:28:40] Josh Janssen: [00:28:40] Yeah. That's really bad. The new game.
[00:28:44] Tommy Jackett: [00:28:44] Get mom to guess
[00:28:45] Josh Janssen: [00:28:45] what we're doing. Just the premise. What it's called 60 minutes, the script.
[00:28:50] Static going on guesses. What the
[00:28:53] Julian Haig: [00:28:53] hell we're doing?
[00:28:56] Josh Janssen: [00:28:56] Why are you doing it? Oh yeah, no, don't ask.
[00:29:02] [00:29:00] We don't know. We don't know. Well, thank you. Thank you. And good luck with the painting and thank you, Joel, for coming on the podcast. Uh, everyone there's tuna sandwiches help yourselves. Uh, obviously, um, you know, take some away with you. Uh, it's been screenplay Sunday, enjoy your Sunday and we'll see you next week.
[00:29:20] Have a good one.